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this is great news for barack obama. the best number in over three and a half years. what it means for the economy and more importantly for americans trying to find a new job. it's too early to tell. >> of course, the president and governor romney this week went head-to-head in their first dae bait. ta >> for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan. now five months before the election he's saying his big, bold idea is never mind. >> mr. president obama, you're entitled to your own airplane and own house, but not the facts. >> i think it's safe to say the president got trounced. it was the ugliest night. >> the president is going to have to stand up and deliver. he still has a big lead in a couple of key states, but that lead will evaporate quickly. >> he has to step it up. before the debate, we had a new nbc news wall street marist poll. the president up eight points among likely voters in ohio but just two points in virginia and statistically tied in virginia. >> as the late great tim russert would say, it comes down to one state for the romney campaign -- ohio,
this is great news for barack obama. the best number in over three and a half years. what it means for the economy and more importantly for americans trying to find a new job. it's too early to tell. >> of course, the president and governor romney this week went head-to-head in their first dae bait. ta >> for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan. now five months before the election he's saying his big, bold idea is never mind. >> mr. president obama, you're entitled to...
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the president touted the numbers as a step in the right direction. he was in virginia this afternoon speaking before a crowd at george mason university. >> today's news should give us some encouragement. it shouldn't be an excuse for the other side to try to talk down the economy. just to try to score a few political points. >> mitt romney argued that the numbers disguised the fact that people have actually stopped looking for work. this morning, he campaigned in southwest virginia before going to florida where he criticized the president for failing to get specific on job growth. >> he's got a chance to explain his jobs program. did you hear what he had to say? i didn't either. [ laughter ] i heard more of the same. >> mitt romney will spend more of the next three days in florida. >> well, now we know the washington nationals finally got some answers tonight. they finally know where they're going and whole they'll face in the playoffs. carol? >> reporter: hey, doreen, the first post-season for washington, d.c. in 79 years will be in sant lewis. the
the president touted the numbers as a step in the right direction. he was in virginia this afternoon speaking before a crowd at george mason university. >> today's news should give us some encouragement. it shouldn't be an excuse for the other side to try to talk down the economy. just to try to score a few political points. >> mitt romney argued that the numbers disguised the fact that people have actually stopped looking for work. this morning, he campaigned in southwest virginia...
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sides will have a tremendous amount of money down the final stretch of this campaign, particularly that obama $181 million. that's going to allow them potentially to compete almost one to one with all of that republican outside money. >> reporter: still, romney is facing lingering questions about some of his recent assertions. >> number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. >> reporter: including his argument that his health care plan would cover people who already have medical problems. that decision would be left to the state. that explanation was quickly picked up by president obama at a rally in northern virginia friday. >> governor romney was fact-checked by his own campaign. >> reporter: to counter opponents' effort as an out of touch executive, romney shifted to tell more of his own life story, including his friendship with a 14-year-old diagnosed with leukemia. >> there's a saying, clear eyes, full heart, can't lose. david couldn't lose. i love that young man. >> justin, this is actually ann romney calling. >> reporter: today ann visited phone banks in florida. >> i'
sides will have a tremendous amount of money down the final stretch of this campaign, particularly that obama $181 million. that's going to allow them potentially to compete almost one to one with all of that republican outside money. >> reporter: still, romney is facing lingering questions about some of his recent assertions. >> number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. >> reporter: including his argument that his health care plan would cover people who...
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doesn't look too good for obama. >> you raised a number. the symbolism and how people feel about it. let's look at a cnn poll from last month. 67% of registered voters expect conditions will be good a year from now. daniel, what do you think? 31% say worse. are they right, are they wrong? >> the economy will be better, but it's a question of how much better. let's not forget obama promised if he enacted his so-called stimulus, by today, the unemployment rate would be down to 5.5%. so, something's gone wrong. if you look at the minneapolis federal reserve website, there's an interactive feature that allows you to look at all the the business cycles since world war ii. it's the worst gdp performance and jobs perform ann of any president. things are getting better, but at such an anemic rate. >> let's move on. go ahead. jump in. >> you know what the problem was with that promise? they should have never made that. promises get people elected. promises get things passed, so now mitt romney says i'm going to create 12 million jobs over four years
doesn't look too good for obama. >> you raised a number. the symbolism and how people feel about it. let's look at a cnn poll from last month. 67% of registered voters expect conditions will be good a year from now. daniel, what do you think? 31% say worse. are they right, are they wrong? >> the economy will be better, but it's a question of how much better. let's not forget obama promised if he enacted his so-called stimulus, by today, the unemployment rate would be down to 5.5%....
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the unemployment numbers are giving obama the boost he needed but romney says the numbers aren't nearly good enough. joining me is former clinton press secretary, dee dee myers and republican strategist, john bravender. john, let me start with you. presumably all republicans are feeling a surge of great excitement following the debate. how much has that been dissipated by what are undeniably very good jobs figures today? >> first of all, i guess i would argue that they are as good as either you're saying or particularly that obama is saying. if you look at the adjusted numbers for july and august, actually the new numbers aren't any better than that. if you look, the only reason that unemployment is going down is they're taking more and more people who have basically given up or are underemployed out of the equation and so what has happened is we're now starting to accept and get excitement over mediocrity. but i will say this. the good news for the president is we're discussing the job numbers today and whether they're good, bad or whatever rather than his debate performance. i think t
the unemployment numbers are giving obama the boost he needed but romney says the numbers aren't nearly good enough. joining me is former clinton press secretary, dee dee myers and republican strategist, john bravender. john, let me start with you. presumably all republicans are feeling a surge of great excitement following the debate. how much has that been dissipated by what are undeniably very good jobs figures today? >> first of all, i guess i would argue that they are as good as...
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or hurting the actual numbers obama's claim obama's claim about a five trillion dollars tax cut came from a tax policy center study that in the abstract will tell you the next policies are you are you denying their words that we're collecting two trillion dollars a year in taxes right now no wonder they don't hear you say ninety two times and is twenty romney was not really wasn't exactly what was tax plan but what are you guys both so worried about both candidates are going to grow government anyway you're just going to get a slight decrease in spending from a romney presidency obama you both should be happy liberals or conservatives should all be very happy with the growth of government would be because it because anybody who cares about liberty or freedom or free markets they're screwed anybody who is a working poor but i want to go wherever your freedom riders are you know they're going to go about us remember it is terrible you know it's about us first we've got to have liberty for the koch brothers i get it you know we've got to deregulate their oil plants and then they're and
or hurting the actual numbers obama's claim obama's claim about a five trillion dollars tax cut came from a tax policy center study that in the abstract will tell you the next policies are you are you denying their words that we're collecting two trillion dollars a year in taxes right now no wonder they don't hear you say ninety two times and is twenty romney was not really wasn't exactly what was tax plan but what are you guys both so worried about both candidates are going to grow government...
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can president obama get past florida's high unemployment numbers to win there? >> and it's not just unemployment. i think housing is another key to point out. i'm sure mark knows this well. the foreclosure rates have been high in florida and the foreclosure crisis has been especially felt there, as in a number of other states. so he's facing -- the president is facing some serious economic headwinds in there as he has in a couple of other of the swing states. that said, the national mood does matter. he's done fairly well in even some other hard-hit states like ohio, in persuading that they should feel better about the economy, that it's at least heading in the right direction, even if it's not all the way there. so i expect he will continue to try to make that case. >> mark, in 2008, barack obama won the state. in 2004, george w. bush beat senator john kerry with 52% of the vote, and we all remember what happened in 2000 between vice president gore and george w. bush. how difficult is it to handicap the race in florida? >> well, i'd say it's pretty close to imp
can president obama get past florida's high unemployment numbers to win there? >> and it's not just unemployment. i think housing is another key to point out. i'm sure mark knows this well. the foreclosure rates have been high in florida and the foreclosure crisis has been especially felt there, as in a number of other states. so he's facing -- the president is facing some serious economic headwinds in there as he has in a couple of other of the swing states. that said, the national mood...
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and the number is good for obama in the psychological way and also if you look historically. what we've just been through in the past year is one of the -- the changes are tiny, but one of the longest declines in the unemployment rate since 1984, so that's a very good trend for the president and public opinion polls have been sending these mixed signals. the most recent "wall street journal" poll had the wrong track number sky high, 60%. but of those who felt like the economy was improving and would continue to get better, it was like 54%. so something has been going on out there in the minds of the public in terms of their perception of the economy and this gives them one more reason to at least stay in that direction. gwen: barring -- if there had not been a debate that occurred on wednesday night, perhaps these numbers would have seemed like they were ceiling things off, this election was over because that was the trend line we were on. romney was having bad week after bad week then he had a spectacularly good night. does that change things? >> there are some things it def
and the number is good for obama in the psychological way and also if you look historically. what we've just been through in the past year is one of the -- the changes are tiny, but one of the longest declines in the unemployment rate since 1984, so that's a very good trend for the president and public opinion polls have been sending these mixed signals. the most recent "wall street journal" poll had the wrong track number sky high, 60%. but of those who felt like the economy was...
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took office republicans claim the new numbers are being manipulated by the obama administration republicans just mad that their plot to crash the economy has failed i'll ask our panel in tonight's big picture rumble anderson's daily take which you know it's possible to be arrested for trespassing on your own land well it is it's a sign of the corporations are turning america into a third world country. provides conversations with great minds are joined by peter gloss peter is a veteran journalist with over thirty years of experience previously he was the moscow bureau chief and international news editor for business week magazine as well as the executive editor of virginia business magazine he's also worked as a reporter at the virginia and richmond times dispatch dealing with environmental issues and as an investigative journalist peter got his bachelor's degree in political science an era of international relations from tufts university he's also the author of thunder on the mountain death and massey in the dirty secrets behind big coal he joins me now in the studio peter thanks so much f
took office republicans claim the new numbers are being manipulated by the obama administration republicans just mad that their plot to crash the economy has failed i'll ask our panel in tonight's big picture rumble anderson's daily take which you know it's possible to be arrested for trespassing on your own land well it is it's a sign of the corporations are turning america into a third world country. provides conversations with great minds are joined by peter gloss peter is a veteran...
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can't debate to change numbers. i think he presumably means the obama campaign. and conservative commentator laura ingram tweeted, another name for the labor debt's bogus 7.8% unemployment number. obama's surprise, thanks hilda. hilda solis is responsible at the bureau of statistics which puts out the job numbers. >> i have the highest regard for our professional staff at the bureau of statistics. folks that have been working in this area for many years and this is a methodology that's been used for decades. it is insulting when you hear people just cavalierly say that somehow we are manipulating numbers. i find that very insulting. >> solis, not solis. for the record, here's how the process works. the raw data comes in on wednesdays, the week before the monthly report. the bureau of statistics makes calls around to 60,000 house holds and asks who is working. that's where the unemployment rate comes from. for job growth and job loss, they gather payroll data from businesses. everyone who touches the data signs confidentiality agreements. documents are locked in s
can't debate to change numbers. i think he presumably means the obama campaign. and conservative commentator laura ingram tweeted, another name for the labor debt's bogus 7.8% unemployment number. obama's surprise, thanks hilda. hilda solis is responsible at the bureau of statistics which puts out the job numbers. >> i have the highest regard for our professional staff at the bureau of statistics. folks that have been working in this area for many years and this is a methodology that's...
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number one. number two, we saw obama do the same thing. he was to hillary's left, brought it around, started quoting reagan in the fall, started sounding reaganesque. that's where the votes are. >> but your party has gotten so much domination by the tea party people and the neocons, you have to sign down here no taxes. >> it doesn't matter what you sign. >> it doesn't? >> at this stage of the game, it didn't matter. all those folks can vote for romney and he'll need the conservative democrats, those independents. >> i have a theory by the way people hate obama so much on the right cynthia and perhaps center right, they hate him so much that they're willing to have this guy go to the center, as long as he wins. your thoughts? >> that's absolutely true, chris, because people like karl rove and billy crystal know that mitt romney is an empty suit and they can push him around if he wins the presidency. >> oh. >> you know that old saying, if you stan for nothing, you won't stand for anything. well, romney doesn't stand for anything. he doesn't
number one. number two, we saw obama do the same thing. he was to hillary's left, brought it around, started quoting reagan in the fall, started sounding reaganesque. that's where the votes are. >> but your party has gotten so much domination by the tea party people and the neocons, you have to sign down here no taxes. >> it doesn't matter what you sign. >> it doesn't? >> at this stage of the game, it didn't matter. all those folks can vote for romney and he'll need the...
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can't debate so change numbers. chicago guys presumably meaning the obama campaign. we will talk to him about that. congressman alan west said this on his facebook page. in regard to today's jobs report, i agree with jack welch. chicago style politics is at work here. conservative commentator laura ingram said another name for the labor department's bogus 7 pts 8% unemployment number. obama's october surprise. thanks, hilda. that's labor secretary hilda solis, who is responsible for the bureau of labor statistics which puts out the job numbers. >> i have the highest regard for our professional staff at the bureau of labor statistics, highly trained, highly skilled ph.d.s, economists, statisticians, folks that have been working in this area for many years and this is a methodology that's been used for decades and it is insulting when you hear people just cavalierly say that somehow we are manipulating numbers. i find that very insulting. >> hilda solis. for the record, here's how the process works. the raw data comes in on wednesdays, the week before each monthly repo
can't debate so change numbers. chicago guys presumably meaning the obama campaign. we will talk to him about that. congressman alan west said this on his facebook page. in regard to today's jobs report, i agree with jack welch. chicago style politics is at work here. conservative commentator laura ingram said another name for the labor department's bogus 7 pts 8% unemployment number. obama's october surprise. thanks, hilda. that's labor secretary hilda solis, who is responsible for the bureau...
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new word from president obama and mitt romney on the latest jobs numbers. the president hailing the 7.8% number as a sign of a recovering economy. a .3% drop from last month. mitt romney, meanwhile, downplaying it. >> we learned the unemployment rate is now at its lowest level since i took office. more americans are entering the work force. more americans are getting jobs. too many of our friends and neighbors are still looking for work or struggling to pay the bills. many of them since long before the crisis hit. we owe it to them to keep moving forward. we've come too far to turn back now. >> you realize the number of people in america, the participation of our adults in the work force were the same as when we got elected our unemployment rate would be about 11%. people in this country are having a hard time finding a job. people in this country are having a hard time making ends meet even if they do have a job. >> the 7.8% figure is the lowest since the president took office and total employment increased 873,000, that is the biggest jump in a monthly nu
new word from president obama and mitt romney on the latest jobs numbers. the president hailing the 7.8% number as a sign of a recovering economy. a .3% drop from last month. mitt romney, meanwhile, downplaying it. >> we learned the unemployment rate is now at its lowest level since i took office. more americans are entering the work force. more americans are getting jobs. too many of our friends and neighbors are still looking for work or struggling to pay the bills. many of them since...
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and obama. bill o'reilly is the guy that's going to bring the numbers, that's romney. i'll take papa bear. >> and i think that-- >> i think mr. obama is so far ahead that he wanted to tighten up just to be exciting. >> and basically he's redistributing his lead. >> and he's not complimentary about the president's performance during the the debate. and the other debate is the other rumble in the auditorium. >> it's not a matter of who wins, actually it's going to be entertaining and fun. >> i've canceled my plans, i'm going to be there sitting on the couch. >> you're going to have a tea party with all of your stuffed animals. >> bill gave me two tickets so i'm going to cheer. go, bill, go. >> who are you going to take? >> don't worry. >> you're trouble in my life. you just look for opportunities to screw me up, i'm taking my wife. all right? okay? >> all right. >> and we have time for the therapy. vegas, people, pleaseo'reilly. you're in luck. mr. -- >> bond, james bond. >> . >> i love it. it's a big day for james bond. and break out the martinis and the tuxedos. "the f
and obama. bill o'reilly is the guy that's going to bring the numbers, that's romney. i'll take papa bear. >> and i think that-- >> i think mr. obama is so far ahead that he wanted to tighten up just to be exciting. >> and basically he's redistributing his lead. >> and he's not complimentary about the president's performance during the the debate. and the other debate is the other rumble in the auditorium. >> it's not a matter of who wins, actually it's going to be...
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president obama has no public events today. he will head to california tomorrow, where he is expected to tout the new jobs number, 7.8%, and some big fund-raising numbers out today. president obama and the democrats raised $181 million in september, the highest single-month total so far. more on all these stories throughout the next two hours. >>> the campaign focus shifts a bit next week to the vice presidential nominees. paul ryan and joe biden will face off in their only debate next thursday night. paul ryan has just left his four-day debate camp. he is heading back to wisconsin for a fund-raiser tonight. and as for the vice president, we check in with msnbc news campaign embed carrie dan. she's embedded with vice president joe biden's team. carrie, vice president biden's schedule shows him to be in wilmington, delaware, right now, and for the next few days. what is planned for him? >> that's right, milissa. he's going to be doing his own debate camp there, up until a day before the debate. he's spending time with chris van
president obama has no public events today. he will head to california tomorrow, where he is expected to tout the new jobs number, 7.8%, and some big fund-raising numbers out today. president obama and the democrats raised $181 million in september, the highest single-month total so far. more on all these stories throughout the next two hours. >>> the campaign focus shifts a bit next week to the vice presidential nominees. paul ryan and joe biden will face off in their only debate next...
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they even said in public, their number one goal was to make barack obama a one-term president. when they executed this strategy, what did they do? they damaged the country. do you call that economic patriotism? i don't. this is what a job growth has looked like over the past three years. now take a look at what happens when we see these split between the private sector jobs and the public sector jobs. it's pretty obvious. the losses in the public sector, what were they? a drag on job growth. we lost nearly 700,000 public sector jobs since 2009. most of them, sadly, are teachers. now if you look at the major sectors of our economy right now, hell, there's growth all over the place in all areas except one. construction jobs. now think about this. if the american jobs act was considered by republicans they would have added nearly 2 million construction jobs. where would the unemployment report be now? the september jobs report, my friends, it is not a conspiracy. it's just a lot of indigestion by the republicans. and i think it's insulting to hard working americans to say that it
they even said in public, their number one goal was to make barack obama a one-term president. when they executed this strategy, what did they do? they damaged the country. do you call that economic patriotism? i don't. this is what a job growth has looked like over the past three years. now take a look at what happens when we see these split between the private sector jobs and the public sector jobs. it's pretty obvious. the losses in the public sector, what were they? a drag on job growth. we...
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it is still a high number. and it forces the administration that will be leveled against him. >> eliot: let's talk politics. wednesday night mitt romney had the best day of his campaign. head to head against the president, and the president was not performing up to par not what we expect of him as a communicator, what we expect, articulating is what he's all about. suddenly the winds have been taken out of the sails of mitt romney a little bit, the data, the real data, there are so many things that ever three of us do is not there to substantiate his claim. what can he now do to say i really do have an engine of growth that i am going to start. >> he can't use that 8.1%, it matters a little bit. what he said today is what he'll continue to say. it's not good enough, fast enough and there are a few things that i think i can do to make it grow faster. but it's harder to make the case that obama has failed entirely on the economy when obviously we're at better place creating jobs, 5 million jobs since we hit the b
it is still a high number. and it forces the administration that will be leveled against him. >> eliot: let's talk politics. wednesday night mitt romney had the best day of his campaign. head to head against the president, and the president was not performing up to par not what we expect of him as a communicator, what we expect, articulating is what he's all about. suddenly the winds have been taken out of the sails of mitt romney a little bit, the data, the real data, there are so many...
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i am not barack obama. >> he clearly has control. >> the fact is, this jobs number will not make a difference. the difference is what barack obama does in the next two rounds. it was a very poor performance. you have to give credit to mitt romney who was on his game he made his arguments. not say that he very from the truth, that is neither here nor there. he argued the case effectively. >> the economy created 5 billion -- million jobs in the past few years. is that true? >> i do not know. these numbers are so squishy. it is not 100% clear to me who is right about jobs. what i know is when they were saying on friday morning when they release those numbers, that for the first time, more people who were out of the work force were getting jobs. that is news. >> it is also important to keep in mind who had been hard hit by the economy. largely younger americans, african-americans, or hispanics. those who are either not going to vote or are supporting president obama. so i think you have got a pool of swing voters out there who are actually doing better right now in this economy than many people.
i am not barack obama. >> he clearly has control. >> the fact is, this jobs number will not make a difference. the difference is what barack obama does in the next two rounds. it was a very poor performance. you have to give credit to mitt romney who was on his game he made his arguments. not say that he very from the truth, that is neither here nor there. he argued the case effectively. >> the economy created 5 billion -- million jobs in the past few years. is that true?...
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finally elaine mills added "7.8% number is receipt real. go obama 2012." i'll be reading your tweets later on. @lakeswit. >>> former new jersey governor christie todd whitman. i asked her why mitt romney is viewed as being unable to connect with voters. >> i think part of it is the process that we have in place now with the two parties, the nominating process forces them to the right and to the left. because you're only looking at the base in your party. so you're appealing to a small group of people. and in order to get what has now become the republican base, he's been put in the position of which i don't think he's entirely comfortable. you can change your position. but so many things have changed in a fairly short period of time that i think people aren't quite sure. the far right doesn't think he's conservative enough. the moderates are unsure of where he's going to be as a president. is he going to be the massachusetts governor or is he going to be the person that they heard during the debates? and those are not necessarily the same people for him. >
finally elaine mills added "7.8% number is receipt real. go obama 2012." i'll be reading your tweets later on. @lakeswit. >>> former new jersey governor christie todd whitman. i asked her why mitt romney is viewed as being unable to connect with voters. >> i think part of it is the process that we have in place now with the two parties, the nominating process forces them to the right and to the left. because you're only looking at the base in your party. so you're...
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the obama and romney camps spar over new jobs number as the president tries to rebound from his weak performance in his first debate. >>> computer technology helps us get a sense of what the candidates might have been thinking and feeling on the stage. >>> and big bird gets a shout out in the presidential race. will he be an endangered species after the election? >>> i'm wolf blitzer. you're in the "situation room." >>> exactly one month before election day, there's a new dynamic in the race for the white house. after mitt romney outperformed the president in the first debate. and now knew jobs numbers are likely to provide more fuel for their next debate. the unemployment rate unexpectedly fell to 7.8 in september down from 8.1 the previous month and the lowest since january 2009. a separate survey of employers shows businesses added 114,000 jobs last month. and let's bring in jessica yellen. what's the obama white house saying about all of this? >> they're effectively saying that the economy, while it's still weak, is showing signs that the president's policies are working, that hi
the obama and romney camps spar over new jobs number as the president tries to rebound from his weak performance in his first debate. >>> computer technology helps us get a sense of what the candidates might have been thinking and feeling on the stage. >>> and big bird gets a shout out in the presidential race. will he be an endangered species after the election? >>> i'm wolf blitzer. you're in the "situation room." >>> exactly one month before...
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. >> numbers get to with lou dobbs going to help president obama. >> bill: what about the race deal? cookie stuff, we know where it comes from and who is generating it. we don't take it seriously. it is so far out there. these people, i guess they believe what they say marianne, it's offensive to everybody else, is it not? >> look, style does matter. make no mistake about it. what voters are looking for from the president the other night was someone who is going to fight back. >> bill: are you dodging my question about race, marianne? are you dodging it now? >> no. not at all. >> the guy said obama couldn't talk frankly because is he black, marianne, and you say, what? i say that's not true. >> fight back that's not true. powers, what do you say? >> it's insane. that's not true and insane. why do these people do it? i mean, if this injecting race into this. >> they are trying to make excuses for a very bad performance. >> the air was too thin al gore and he couldn't talk because is he black. >> desperation, really it is. >> bill: desperation too kind a word. insane. that was accurate
. >> numbers get to with lou dobbs going to help president obama. >> bill: what about the race deal? cookie stuff, we know where it comes from and who is generating it. we don't take it seriously. it is so far out there. these people, i guess they believe what they say marianne, it's offensive to everybody else, is it not? >> look, style does matter. make no mistake about it. what voters are looking for from the president the other night was someone who is going to fight back....